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MEETING OF JANUARY 10, 2004
By Bill Menza (#1029)
The Washington, DC Metro Area Il Circolo Filippo Mazzei
(POINT Chapter #6) met on January 10, 2003 at the Dolly Madison Public
Library in McLean, Virginia.
Lou Alfano (#2114) chaired the meeting in Paul
Traunero's absence and opened it by reminding the group about the
October 7-9, 2004 POINT National Conference in Kansas City, MO. He
mentioned three books he found to be important for research: Finding Italian Roots by John Colletta, Discovering Your Italian Ancestsors by Lynn Nelson, and Italian Genealogical Records
by Trafford Cole. Lou stated that they should be used in th order
listed, as one becomes more proficient in Italian Genealogy. He noted
that coats of arms are given by a sovereign to a person, which can only
be passed on by this person to his first son, and his first son could
pass it on to his first son, and so on. Only first sons inherit a coat
of arms, and therefore, it belongs to no other persons even if you
happen to have the same family name. Lou noted that the LDS Family
History Center in Oakton, VA has birth, death, and marriage directories
for New York City; and that LDS Personal Ancestral File (PAF) software
is free and can be obtained from their Internet site.
Bill Menza (#1029) leaves for Salerno in March on the Campania tour sponsored
by the National Italian American Foundation. He showed a letter he drafted in
Italian to send to the Ufficio di Stato Civile and the Ufficio Anagrafe of San
Gregorio Magno for birth, marriage, and family records. Members of the group
will help him to rewrite the letter in better Italian.
Art Manfredi (#3414) has traced his father's maternal
line back to the 1800s. Tafford Cole is doing research for him on his
mother's family. In April Art leaves for Salerno on the NIAF Campania
Tour. He passed around copies of the birth and marriage certificate
extracts on his great great grandfather and grandother he had just
received from the Comune di Campiano. He mentioned that
www.ItalyWorldClub.com has a wealth of information on Italy.
Dan Else is researching family in the Avellino area. He
noted that the
Library of Congress is giving a workshop on Genealogical Research on
Wednesdays from Jan. 21 to Apr 21 in the Jefferson Building.
Donna Dengler is researching the Palermo area for family.
Sarena Welch has traced her family on her mother's side back to the 1500s.
Bill Naughton is helping Sarena with her research. He
suggests putting
your family story on RootsWeb.com. It is free and you do not give up
ownership on what you provide as is the case with some other Websites.
He said he gets emails constantly from people searching the same family
lines, who found his family webpage on RootsWeb.com. Some of these
contacts have provided information he would not have found otherwise.
Lou Alfano mentioned that Geocities.com is another place to post family
information. He said that books like HTML for Dummies
would be helpful in learning how to construct website pages; and not to
list any living people in what you post; and to use a throw-away email
address because of spam problems.
Bob Carrubba is searching in Sicily (Galiano and Trieno) for information on
his father's family. It was suggested that he search military records to
find out more about some family members.
Louis DeSanti showed the group a family photograph over
100 years old he
discovered in the attic, which shows his mother as a young woman. He
related how on one of his return trips from Italy as a 15 year old boy,
he was held at Ellis Island, because he was a minor. He had to wait
until the next day when an adult family member came to get him.
Nancy DeSanti told the group about her trip to Salerno (the one sponsored
by NIAF). She said that the hotel where tour members stay gives a view of the
Bay of Salerno. The food was excellent. Breakfast was such a meal that
you could not eat lunch. She said that a number of people on the tour rented
cars to visit the comuni of their families. Next year the NIAF sponsored tour
will be to Sicily.
Jerry Polizzi is going to Sicily in March to the town of Polizzi with 35
other people. The trip is being organized by OysterBayTravel.com. He just
read the book Blood Washes Blood
by Frank Vivano, a foreign correspondent for the San Francisco
Chronicle. It is the personal story of Vivano's search for his family
roots in Sicily.
Anne Jeffrey is tracing family in Abruzzo. Two men working on a book on
one line of the family have contacted her to review their manuscript.
Kay Hill (#4183) is searching the Lombardi and Gamboni areas. Her family
settled in Pittsburg, PA. She plans to get the book Beyond the Golden Door that was mentioned in POINTers.
Connie Sancetta is searching her Sancetta and Romano family lines in
Sicily.
David Ciummo said his father come from Italy to
Pittsburgh, PA. He is
searching his family lines in Abruzzo. His mother's Debeco family line
are from the Potenza area. He has an interest in obtaining an Italian
passport, since his father apparently was not naturalized. He leaves on
a trip to Italy in less than two weeks.
Kay Torpey is searching her Freda ancestors. She recommends the book: The
Handy Book of Genealogists.
It lists what records each state has.
Also, Bookfinders.Com was mentioned for finding books. It does a
complete
search of the Internet to locate books with one exception of one of the
major booksellers that does not want to be included in the search.
The Group's next meeting is April 10, 2004 at 10 a.m. at the Dolley Madison
Library, McLean, VA.
As always, we invite you to our website at
http://www.geocities.com/circolomazzei/index.html
or via POINT Homepage at:
http://point-pointers.net/.
for past minutes and future meetings and events.
or e-mail Paul Traunero or Lou Alfano for additional information.
MEETING OF APRIL 10, 2004
By Dan Else
This year�s second meeting of Il Circolo Filippo
Mazzei took place at the Dolley Madison Library on April 10, 2004.
Despite the fact that it was Holy Saturday, 19 loyal members attended.
In Paul Traunero�s absence, Lou Alfano chaired the meeting and Dan
Else took the minutes.
Lou Alfano (#2114) started off the round-robin by
announcing the dates of the remaining two meetings of Il Cirolo Mazzei,
July 17 and October 9, 2004, at the Dolley Madison Library. He noted
that this conflicts with the annual POINT Conference, held this year
between October 7 and 9 in Kansas City, Missouri. Lou will present his
updated talk on immigrant ships at the conference. He also noted the
recent reduction in annual dues for POINT ($30). Lou passed around a
copy of a thick reference volume on Italian names and surnames that he
had downloaded from the Internet. Nomi E Cognomi: Saggio di Ricerche Etimologiche e Storiche, authored by Angelo Bungioanni, appears to have been written around 1930 and is available as a PDF file at http://www.librister.com/eng/showcase/araldica.html.
Bill Menza (#1029) just returned from a trip to southern Italy that
included tours of Salerno, Napoli, the nearby islands and the environs.
He contacted Menzas in San Gregorio Magno whom he had met on a 1977
trip. His lunch at their home lasted until 6 p.m. They then talked the
curator of the town hall into opening the registers for research. He
finally left the town at 9 p.m.
Bob Carruba (#4406) described frustration with sending a stream
of letters to an Italian comune that were rejected or ignored. He
related his correspondence with St. John's Cemetery in New York City.
The Cemetery escalated its price for assisting in document research
from $40 to $50 to $300 and now provides a menu of prices. He also
found that family photos glued into an album had full identifying
information written on the back of each picture.
Joe Gagliardo (#4875), a new member, began his research last
July. Both sides of his family originated in Corleone, Sicily. One
visit to the National Archives regional Center in New York City, he
discovered that his frustration in searching online databases was
caused by a misspelling in the original immigration records. Using
"Gugliardo," he quickly found original and online information.
Art Manfredi (#3414) engaged Trafford Cole and received a
package of research that included a CD of Gedcom files and photographs.
Trafford attached a detailed letter that explained gaps in vital
records. Priests in the town had sold blocks of records to prominent
local families, and they are therefore lost.
Donna Dengler described how Roots Mail postings of several
years ago are still generating e-mails from researchers. She asked
whether surnames that included "Intessa" indicated an orphan being
raised by another family.
Jane Ferrigno (#3693) described her recent 3 1/2-week trip to
Sicily and her hit and miss luck in convincing the local parish to open
its archive.
Lou DeSanti received a letter from a POINTer in Pennsylvania
(Felix Cianciarulo of Coraopolis) because of a posting on the Il
Circolo web site. Lou had traced the lineage of one signer of the
Declaration of Independence, Caesar Rodney of Delaware, to Italy. Felix
had traced another, William Paca of Maryland.
Nancy DeSanti noted that the most recent issue of the National
Italian-American Foundation Quarterly (NIAF) featured the Italian roots
of the new president of the American Medical Association, Donald
Palmisano.
Anne Jeffery (#4845) had excellent service using an online
photo restoration service, DiscountDigitalArt.com. She was cautioned to
ensure that she used only acid-free plastic sleeves to preserve
documents.
Robert Melchiori found that a distant relative in Trento possesses a massive family archive that he is eager to share.
Marie Melchiori (#2828) discovered that World War II selective
service records for older men (those born between 1877 and 1897) in
some New York City boroughs that are held at the National Archives
regional center there have been resorted alphabetically instead of by
draft office. She has also begun to correspond with the cousin in the
Gaeta/Formia area.
Margaret Cutino (#3538) describes several instances where
keeping connections open with other researchers and trading favors had
reaped significant benefits by taking advantage of circuitous
connections to important information. She offered to use her
subscription to Ancestry.com to assist others in online searches.
Several members noted that both the Library of Congress and the
National Archives seemed to have recently enhanced electronic access to
information on their web sites.
Joe Pelczar has discovered through electronic correspondence
initiated through the posting of club minutes that his surname appears
to have been very common within a small geographic area in Poland.
Elisa Ulino (#2301) recommended 300 Years of Long Island City
by Vincent F. Seyfried, published in 1985 by the Queens Historical
Society (188 pages) to all those whose families have lived in or near
the city through 1930. It is available for $30 from the Society at http://www.queenshistoricalsociety.org/publications.html and is currently being updated.
Kay Torpey (#2543) described both the discovery of a large, beautiful
cameo belonging to her great-great-grandmother's sister and a family
history project undertaken by an uncle that is grinding to a halt. She
is planning a trip to Trenton, New Jersey, to solve both problems. She
discussed a small group of POINT members who have formed a collective
for the clearing of genealogical data and hiring of researchers.
John Iaconis (#2953) will soon travel to Basilicata. He
discussed the difficulty in traveling from Rome to the heel of the
Italian boot.
Mary Madeline King discussed her intention to visit the
Abbruzzo. The group discussed the merits of various tour companies
(Trafalgar, Insight, Globus, etc.). One member suggested that she
contact Bethesda Travel Center, which is local, designs custom
vacations, and is owned by Guido Adelfio, an Italian-American.
As always, we invite you to our website at
http://www.geocities.com/circolomazzei/index.html
or via POINT Homepage at:
http://point-pointers.net/.
for past minutes and future meetings and events.
or e-mail Paul Traunero or Lou Alfano for additional information.
MEETING OF JULY 17, 2004
By Paul Traunero
Our last meeting was held on July 17, 2004 at our usual meeting place at
the Dolley Madison branch of the Fairfax Public Library System in McLean,
Virginia. We numbered 16 and included a new member who discovered us via
our Web page. After the meeting, some members reconvened at Pulcinella's
Italian Restaurant. Our next and final meeting for the year is scheduled
for October 9, 2004 at 10:00 am. Below, chronicles the minutes of our
round-robin format discussion.
Anne Jeffery -- had nothing new to report, but was able to take away
several nuggets of information about genealogical resources.
Joe Pelczar -- mentioned that upgrading to Internet Explorer 6.x helps when
downloading files from the Ellis Island Website.
Margaret Cutino -- told of her recent trip to the Library of Congress'
Adams Building, where they have back issues of old magazines. They can
give a window into society of years gone by.
Jerry Polizzi -- related his second trip to Sicily in March of this year.
The NIAF tour was able to go off-track to some monasteries in Cefalï. He
also noted that the last issue of POINTers included an article about his
relatives that was submitted by his cousin-in-law.
Kay Torpey -- updated us on her endeavor to contact a cousin in order to
repatriate a family cameo. She eventually succeeded in getting it to Tony
Altieri. Kay had found it among her mother's belongings after she died.
She also recently tape recorded her father's answers to questions about his
experiences in World War II. She will submit the copies of the tapes to
the LOC's veterans history project. The early portion of the tape has some
background noise and we discussed who to contact that might be able to
cancel it.
Laura La Corte -- is a new member and received an abundance of advice
regarding recording of the information that she has and interviewing
relatives. At the end of the meeting, she found three POINT members
researching a surname of interest to her and now has their contact
information.
Nancy De Santi -- made her first visit to Italy without her father. She
took a NIAF sponsored trip to Sicily. The tour was flexible and included a
foray into the countryside. [author note: This week I received an email
request for more information about Nancy's entry in the Mazzei minutes of
January 2002 regarding Maria Barbella!]
Louis De Santi -- is satisfied with his genealogical information dating
back to 1840. He has gathered this via visits to the towns where he lived
as a child. In the near future, he is to be interviewed for inclusion in a
family time capsule.
Richard Camaur -- has long been researching in the Genoa area and has
submitted nine surnames to POINT. Fellow member Jean Florio saw his CUNEO
line and suggested that he search in the Sopra Chiavari area.
David Ciummo -- discovered documents and letters in a shoebox belonging to
a relative. His relatives lived in Acquaviva. They emmigrated from France
due to the satisfied quotas from Italy. He has found the port of entry
from 1930 of his father and grandmother.
Art Manfredi -- was on another NIAF sponsored trip to Campania. He had
made arrangements with cousins there to drive him to the town of his
mother's origin--Santangelo Fasanella (SA). While there, he was treated to
a 2-1/2 hour dinner with 17 people!
Bill Menza -- was on yet another NIAF trip to Salerno, when he was able to
visit the town of his great-grandparents--San Gregrio Magno. It was a
great experience for him.
Lou Alfano -- recently bought the book The Story of Italian
Immgration-Passage from Italy. He also shared three books by Giovanni
Schiavo. On the subject of whether William Paca was an Italian signer of
the Declaration of Independence, Lou posted a rebuttal on the Colonial Hall
Website, citing some other sources to consider. Lastly, he noted that
during his research, the term "collegiata" can also refer to a church.
Paul Traunero -- recently updated and completed gathering copies of
obituaries of his relatives from his home town. In one of them is noted
the exact date of immigration, September 1, 1882, for which he has been
seeking their port of entry at the National Archives. His ancestors have
failed to be included in both the Germans and Italians to America series.
Linda Moran -- along with husband, Earl Jones, announced that they are
going to Nicosia, Sicily early next year in order to further her
genealogical research.
For further information on our chapter, visit:
http://www.geocities.com/circolomazzei/index.html
or via POINT Homepage at:
http://point-pointers.net/.
for past minutes and future meetings and events.
or e-mail Paul Traunero or Lou Alfano for additional information.
MEETING OF October 9, 2004
By Art Manfredi
The latest meeting of Il Circolo Mazzei was held on October 9, 2004 at
the usual location--The Dolley Madison Library--in McLean, Virginia.
Notes from the meeting follow:
Art Manfredi passed around some birth and military conscription records
for one of his Great Grandfathers. He noted that the Archivio di Stato
di Parma now has an email address on its stationery. He also passed
around a photo of the building in Little Italy in NYC where his Manfredi
Grandfather and Great Grandparents lived in 1880. There is now a
Chinese restaurant on the street level.
Joe Gagliardo noted that all his ancestors came from Corleone in Sicily.
He has civil birth and marriage records. Is beginning to search
church records held by the LDS, he was surprised to find an index to
marriages for 1581-1880. From these records he has traced his name back
to 1609. Another member noted that LDS films might be filed by town,
diocese or province, so it is a good idea to try various searches to
find available records.
Joe Pelczar noted that the Library of Congress Adams building allows
personal scanners to be brought in and used.
Margaret Cutino added that she and Joe were scanning the cover of a
magazine that was deteriorating seriously, and they called it to the
attention of Library personnel. It might otherwise have gone unnoticed.
Elisa Ulino is researching in Le Marche and Basilicato. A family trunk
has yielded photos of her Grandfather, one of which needs restoration.
Several members offered suggestions for a source.
Will Amatruda has been searching for his Grandmother�s grave in NYC.
She brought his Mother to the US when his mother was 8 months old and
died shortly thereafter. The death certificate had "county farms,"
thought to be akin to a potter�s field. His research led initially to
Staten Island, but the latest suggestion is Kings County Hospital
cemetery, a lead he will pursue. He also passed around a Sanborn map,
the detailed maps done for insurance purposes in the late 1800s. The
Library of Congress Map Room in the Madison Building has the collection.
Another member noted that this Map Room also has maps of towns in
Italy. Will also mentioned that he had gotten some useful information
from gravesites at St. John�s Cemetery in Brooklyn.
Louis DeSanti noted that this was Columbus Day weekend and celebrated it
by graciously giving each member a copy of his book Columbus and the
New World!
Nancy DeSanti noted that she is going on the NIAF trip to Sicily, and
will be attending [as will Art Manfredi] a reception at the NIAF gala
next weekend for those who went on the NIAF trip to Campania.
Jerry Polizzi noted that he had toured Tuscany recently, and that the
Sicily trip on which he had gone last March was being conducted [by Dr.
Mario Macaluso] again in 2005.
Robert Melchiori learned from a nuns� Motherhouse in Tenafly, NJ, that
an ancestor was buried in a cemetery in Jersey City. Upon going there,
he found she has been buried in a common grave for nuns.
Dan Else had no new information.
Donna Dangler mentioned that her Mother had met someone with the same
name from the same ancestral town. This is a potential source for
information. She is also looking for a cooking class in Sicily.
Anne Jeffery is researching her family from Termo along the Adriatic
Coast. She had a problem getting "official" information from a small
cemetery in Delaware. Even though she knows from her Mom that ancestors
are buried there, the cemetery claims they have no record.
Marie Melchiori, who is a professional genealogist, noted the importance
of documenting the source of every detail in our research. She gave us
a copy of a reference list for citation standards, and examples from two
software packages of printouts - one with no citation information and
the other with full citations.
Connie Sancetta recommended the book Midnight in Sicily by Peter Robb.
She is researching the Sancetta name from the Messina province in
Sicily. Her GGGGrandfather had a brother, and she found his town. She
then went to the Italian phone book, found relatives [fifth cousins?]
and visited them. She received a very warm welcome. She is a
paleontologist, and has been invited back to participate in a dig with a
professor from the University of Messina!
Loren LaCorte is just starting her quest. Her Great Grandfather was an
orphan in Italy and she doesn�t know the town he was from. Members made
several suggestions on avenues of research she might pursue. Marie
Melchiori suggested Legacy [free] or Master Genealogist [purchase] as
software packages.
Jane Ferrigno is researching in Sicily, and has found Ferrignos in
Alcome from 1704 to 1920. She went there and met third cousins, but
inexplicably was not well received. She has tracked some relatives to
Naples, but has had trouble finding records. She is also trying to find
the gravesite of a Great Aunt in a Toms River, NJ, cemetery. Since she
does not know the year of death, neither the cemetery nor the Town Hall
can help. Marie Melchiori noted that a book about NYC graveyards had
been published about five years ago.
Our next meeting is scheduled for January 15, 2005.
For further information on our chapter, visit:
http://www.geocities.com/circolomazzei/index.html
or via POINT Homepage at:
http://point-pointers.net/.
for past minutes and future meetings and events.
or e-mail Paul Traunero or Lou Alfano for additional information.
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